IS USAMA-IBN-LADIN ALIVE?
Bin Laden Death Photos FOIA Case Focuses on His Burial at Sea
By John Hudson | The Atlantic Wire.
The high-profile legal battle over the disclosure of Osama bin Laden’s death photos is beginning to focus on images of the terrorist leader’s burial in the North Arabian Sea. On Wednesday night, the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch filed court papers in its suit against the Defense Department and the CIA for the release of “all photographs and/or video recordings” taken on the night bin Laden was killed. The 19-page brief challenges the government’s rationale for withholding images but gives explicit focus to the images taken on the deck of the USS Carl Vinson prior to his burial.
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“Release of images of bin Laden’s body – particularly those images showing the body cleaned and prepared for burial and being buried at sea – would not reveal any previously unknown covert intelligence missions,” reads the filing. In its brief filed last month, the Justice Department argued that all 52 photographs or videos taken of bin Laden “could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to national security.” The DOJ didn’t differentiate between the gory photos taken immediately after he was shot and the less graphic photos of the burial. It gave a blanket argument that all materials must be withheld because they contain images of U.S. Navy SEAL members, advanced military equipment, secret intelligence methods and could incite violence in the Muslim world.
Last night, Judicial Watch took issue with those arguments as applied to the burial photos:
Conspicuously absent from Defendants’ argument is any proof of how, for example, images of bin Laden’s body as it was being prepared for burial at sea or images of the actual burial at sea itself would reveal information about the identities of the members of the U.S. Navy SEAL team that carried out the raid or the tools and equipment used by the SEAL team during the raid. Similarly, Defendants make no effort to describe how images of bin Laden’s body taken as it was being transported to the location of its burial at sea would reveal site exploitation tactics, techniques, or procedures employed at bin Laden’s compound in Abottabad, Pakistan. Obviously, images taken on board the USS Carl Vinson of the burial at sea are not going to reveal site exploitation tactics, techniques, or procedures used in the Abottabad compound or even facial recognition techniques or capabilities. Defendants have completely failed to correlate particular records to specific legal theories and therefore have failed to satisfy their burden as a matter of law.
Another point Judicial Watch raised is why the top-secret aspects of the images couldn’t be blurred out or digitally-scrambled. As for the DOJ’s claim that any images could be used to “generate fodder for extremist commentary that could … trigger violence, attacks, or acts of revenge,” the watchdog group cites precedent, noting “No court appears to have ever held that … a government agency [can] withhold requested records simply because their release might be used for propaganda purposes or ‘inflame tensions’ overseas.”
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Though he is not mentioned in the filing, Judicial Watch is actually making the same case Republican Senator James Inhofe made last year after seeing the bin Laden photos at CIA headquarters. “It’s much more reasonable to show the public” the burial photos, he told The Atlantic Wire. As to where the case moves next, Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton says they have asked for a hearing and it will be up to the court, led by U.S. District Judge James Boasberg, to decide on the timing. We’ve asked a pair of Freedom of Information Act experts to weigh in on the latest filing and will publish their views when available.
http://news.yahoo.com/bin-laden-death-photos-foia-case-focuses-burial-150914799.html
(COMMENT:
“Outrageous!”
The fascist-USraeli-regime was willing to take onto-itself the blame for 3 outrageous-acts that indeed it never-committed, namely:
1 Issue an order to kill Osama
2 Shoot an unarmed Osama that had not made any-resistance
3 Dump the body at sea from the USS-Carl-Vinson in violation of islamic-laws.
They did not commit these 3 acts because:
1 They issued an order to arrest, and not to kill
2 Osama was indeed arrested and jailed on the CVN-70, for-life, and
3 What was dumped into the ocean was indeed a big-bag of rotten-rutabagas, just to fool the crew.
Why would the militarized-USraeli-government have done something so devious and conspiratorial?
Because the backlash from having allegedly shot and dumped Osama (where NO photos and NO body were ever produced) was less than what would have been the eternal-consequences and legal-difficulties in letting people know, their-own USraeli-people (freemasons and not) and people around-the-World (muslims and not), that Osama was indeed being kept-alive and waterboarded and interrogated in Cell-Block-70.
Outrageous! … jailing for-life … incommunicado … in a floating black-site … without-trial … without-sentencing … torturing on-a-daily-basis … without lawyers … without Red-Crescent … without Amnesty-International …
No, THAT is not outrageous, not for the hypernationalistic-pseudosocialistic-USraeli-rulers, this is actually very much ordinary-administration, with Guantanamo-style concentration-camps and with very-ordinary extraordinary-renditions.
What indeed IS outrageous is that a little-clique of secretive-fascist USraelite leaders and soldiers, an elitist and exclusive apparatchik-intelligentsia, necrophilic-baphometic bonesmen and masons, can retain the official-power to fool their-own USraeli Media, Government, House, Senate, and all of USrael’s 51-States, and to get all those fools to believe the pathetic-scenario, “Situation-Room” and all, that Osama had simply just been shot and dumped.
Shooting Osama would indeed not have been a “job-well-done” by any masonry-standard, and the cryptic masonic-mantra “he-will-not-walk-on-this-Earth-again” only stands-to-reveal that the kadosh-USraeli-freemasons plan to keep him in a floating-jail for-life in “The-Carl-Prison”, a new ghostly Flying-Dutchman that will sail the oceans of the Globe, haunted and haunting generations of gullible-gentiles, until the sacred end-of-all-times, or at least until the end of Osama’s miserable-time.
And his skull will then be impaled in the USraelite-cult’s necrophilic Tomb-322, next to all the other skulls and bones there, of Geronimo (that, quite-sadly, the REAL Geronimo!), Pancho-Villa, Mata-Hari (that, the REAL Mata-Hari, not Assange’s, or DSK’s), Sarah-Bernhardt, Peter-Stuyvesant, and more, all to be reburied with-full-honors as morbid-trophies in the reconstructed-biblical Grand-Lodge of the third Temple-of-Solomon, that will stand on the very-site where now the doomed-kuranic Dome-of-the-Rock still stands.
(COMMENT 1: You idiot, of course things are NOT the way they tell you … if the CIA were to tell you things the way they really are, that would not be the CIA anymore …)
(COMMENT 2: The alleged shooting of Osama was not shown on the television-sets of the Whites’-House ”Situation-Room”. Knight-of-Malta Templar-Jesuit Panettone said that there was a gap of 20-25 minutes just at the time of the alleged-killing.
It has been stated that no officer had ever given any order to kill Osama. An order to kill by an USraeli-official would have been a violation of international-laws.
No photo of the cadaver has ever been presented. A few published photos turned out to be grossly-doctored forgeries. A FOIA request for the alleged photos has been filed, but it will take years for possible compliance.
No physical body, dead-or-alive, has ever been presented. The alleged burial-at-sea could have been a big-bag of rotten-rutabagas, dumped into the ocean just to fool the crew.
A burial-at-see for a muslim killed on land would have been done in violation of islamic laws.
The GPS-coordinates of the spot on the ocean where the body was allegedly dumped were never given. A FOIA request for the sailing-log has been filed, but it will take years for possible compliance.
USrael has all interest in keeping Osama alive. Waterboarding and interrogations might yield more information.
Having killed a suspect during an arrest-operation, in absence of resistance, would have been in violation of international-laws.
It was stated that Osama was unarmed and did not make any resistance during the incursion into his home in Pakistan. Under such circumstances, the Naval-SEALs would not have killed him, and they would not have the authority to kill him.
Bodies of other people killed in the compound were left there (among them one of Osama’s sons, Khalid). There was no reason to remove Osama’s alleged corpse.
USraelite Skull-and-Bones masonic-pirates want the skull of USrael’s public-enemy number-one to be impaled next to the extant skulls of Geronimo and Pancho-Villa in their baphometic “322” Tomb.
The Naval-SEALs seemingly arrested Osama-Bin-Laden, as he was not found among the bodies and no evidence (only hearsay, and hearsay-of-hearsay) has ever been presented supporting the statement that he had been killed.
The Naval-SEALs seemingly arrested also Hamza, nicknamed by the CIAssassins “the-crown-prince-of-terror”, one of Osama’ sons, as he was not found among the bodies, and no statement was ever made that he had been killed.
Obama would not have told the Naval-SEALs the potty-training encouraging-phrase “job-well-done” if, instead of following the masonic-order of arresting Osama, they would accidentally killed him.
USrael and Uncle-Tombama, by repeatedly using the cryptic freemason statement that Osama “will not walk on this Earth again”, seem to indicate that Osama is indeed jailed for-life in a ghost-ridden Flying-Dutchman floating-jail – presumably the nuclear-powered Cell-Block-70, namely aircraft-carrier USS-Carl-Vinson-CVN-70, “The-Carl-Prison”, that was in the North-Arab-Sea just-off Karachi at the time of the Osama-affair.
The CIA, DEA, Mossad, FBI, Naval-SEALs, SS, and other secretive-organizations carrying-out covert-operations for USrael are under a mandate of NEVER to describe the events in the correct way the events actually unfolded. A correct-description of the Osama-events would have been in violation of the USraeli-code of CIA-omerta’. And quite-opportunely most of the perpetrators and witnesses of the covert-assassinations and illegal-abductions carried-out in Abbottabad were indeed later eliminated in a “helicopter-accident”.)
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So, is Osama-Bin-Laden being held against his will?
Osama-Bin-Laden (a.k.a. Usama-Ibn-Ladin) has over the last-few-years seemingly been the object of an intensive smearing-campaign, being repeatedly accused by USraeli government-propaganda and by USrael’s fascist-media to be a “terrorist”, for having “instigated-terrorism”, or for having “masterminded” the 9/11 ATTAcks.
Apparently Osama-Bin-Laden was “extracted” from his home in Pakistan by a USraeli military-commando and was thereafter transferred via an “extraordinary-rendition” to the USS-Carl-Vinson, believed-to-be a floating “Guantanamo”-type detention-facility. A big-bag of rotten-rutabagas may have been plunged into the ocean from the USraeli nuclear-carrier to simulate a “burial-at-sea” just to fool the CVN-70 crew.
Osama-Bin-Laden is now possibly being held in a “black-site” on the Carl-Vinson as an “enemy-combatant”, without charges, without arraignment, without trial, and without lawyers, subjected to interrogations via “waterboarding” without the assistance of defense-lawyers, without supervision by international-courts, and without the protection of the Red-Cross/Red-Crescent.
It would be quite-surprising if USrael now would still be-adopting similar-techniques, especially at-a-time when USrael’s administration has allegedly expressed-intentions to abandon “Guantanamo”, to stop all “extraordinary-renditions”, to close all secret “black-sites”, to relinquish repelling “waterboarding” interrogation-techniques, and to free all so-called ”enemy-combatants”.
Could perhaps USrael be holding Osama-Bin-Laden against his will? And is his son Hamza-Bin-Laden been held too? This repeated-question may be an issue for Amnesty-International, for the Vatican, for the International-Red-Cross/Red-Crescent, and for the International-Court-of-Justice.
www.amnesty.org
www.vatican.va
www.ifrc.org www.icrc.org
www.icj-cij.org
(COMMENT 1: Possible scenario indeed, and USrael would have to provide some credible-evidence, and not just hearsay, that such is not the case …)
(COMMENT 2: The USraeli-Military lied about what had happened to that Pat-Tillman, so they may very well be lying also about what happened to this Osama-Bin-Laden …)
(COMMENT 3: The fascist USraeli-regime has told Obama to repeat again and again “The fact of the matter is, you will not see Osama-Bin-Laden walking on this Earth again.” However, the stated fact that Osama-Bin-Laden will not be “… walking on this Earth again …” does not mean that he is “dead”, as it most likely only means that Osama-Bin-Laden is actually detained by USrael in a cell on the USS-Carl Vinson for interrogation and for waterboarding.)
(COMMENT 4: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
The head of the CIA admitted that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.
By Steven Swinford http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
Leon Panetta, then director of the CIA, had revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the USraeli special-forces was cut off.
A photograph released by the Whites’-House appeared to show Pissident-Obanana and his aides in the “situation-room” watching the action as it unfolded. In fact they had little knowledge of what was happening in the compound.
In an interview with PBS, Mr. Panettone said: “Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn’t know just exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments as we were waiting for information. We had some observation of the approach there, but we did not have direct flow of information as to the actual conduct of the operation itself as they were going through the compound.”
Mr. Panettone also told the network that the USralite Navy SEALS, rather than Mr. Obamadman, made the final decision to keel bin Laden.)
(COMMENT 5: Obama did not see Bin-Laden die: former CIA Director Panetta
William McRaven http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
WASHINGTON: former CIAssassination-Director Leon Panetta had said that USraeli Pissident-Obamad did not see Osama-Bin-Laden getting gunned down, but came to know that he was killed only after a team used the code “Geronimo,” signifying his capture.
It was reported that Obama along with his high-level team had watched live-coverage in the Whites’-House, as the commandos shot the alleged “world’s most wanted terrorist”, via a video-camera fixed to the helmet of a USraeli nazi-STEAL.
Panettone, however, stressed that officials in the Situation-Room “did not know just exactly what was going on” on that ominous Sunday for 20 to 25 minutes when the team entered Bin-Laden’s Pakistani compound, Politico reports.)
(COMMENT 6: Odd coincidence that George-Piro, the same FBI-Agent that interrogated for 7 months the muslim Saddam-Hussein, was in San-Diego just around the time when the USS-Carl-Vinson came back to its base in San-Diego in June 2011. “Piro controlled every aspect of Hussein’s daily life for the 7 months of the interrogation, from when he woke up to when he ate. If Hussein wanted to know the time it was, he had to ask Piro. The FBI-Agent was Hussein’s only human contact”, per SDDT 6/11/11. So it would be quite possible that Piro may be utilized again to interrogate Osama and Hamza.)
(COMMENT 7: The USraeli-Pentagon has never confirmed that any team of Navy-SEALs carried-out any-raids in Pakistan or had anything to do with Osama-Bin-Laden or his-children Khalid and Hamza. Rolf-Snyder, spokesperson for the Fort-Pierce Navy-UDT-SEAL-Museum, quite-revealingly stated: “Nobody is allowed to talk at-all about any Bin-Laden stuff”.)
(COMMENT 8: Civil-rights groups have said secret-interrogations on ships are blatant-violations of the Geneva-Conventions, which prohibit prolonged-detention of suspects at-sea. Article-22 of the third Geneva-Convention states that combatants can be kept at-sea only for as long as needed to transfer them to land.)
(COMMENT 9: SAN DIEGO (CNS) – November 30, 2011 – Thousands of sailors and airmen are scheduled to leave San Diego Tuesday for deployment to the western Pacific Ocean and Middle East aboard the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson and two other ships.
The Carl Vinson was the ship from which the remains of Osama bin Laden were buried at sea in May. The vessel returned to its home port in June but its crew was warned to be prepared to ship out again before the end of the year.
Aircraft, pilots and crew of Carrier Air Wing 17 will accompany the carrier.
Departing with them are the guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill and guided-missile destroyer USS Halsey.
http://www.cbs8.com/story/16153216/uss-carl-vision-deploys-wednesday )
(COMMENT 10: “We [sic] killed Osama. He was not ‘wanted dead or alive’. He was wanted DEAD. Period. As for Hamza, that’s where the torture, waterboarding, etc came in. Then we killed him too.” kathy_kellie@yahoo.com
“Lost and Missing Relatives: Dora Anne (Baumes) Kelly – Elderly woman (71). Gary [sic] hair, under 5 feet tall. Last known address was Pennsylvania in 2001, but has lived in several states. I am her daughter. City: Albany, NY.” kathy_kellie@yahoo.com
http://www.cyberpages.com/minidb?program=persons&year=2007&month=11 )
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